The Great Porn Debate.

Ron Jeremy wore an "I [heart] PETA" shirt, the pastor had his hair dyed black and had black pants on and white cool shoes and a turquoise sleek top with a solid color tie, which was all very hipster-ish and young. The moderator was a Ryan Seacrest knock-off, only I like Ryan Seacrest better.

(I don't like Ryan Seacrest.)

The bar at the theater had $4 Blue Moons with mandarin oranges in them.

So, where to start? I guess the most interesting thing is that the pastor mainly does his work at porn conventions. People in the porn industry often present themselves as advocates of free speech, and so they let the pastor in. Ron Jeremy said it's also great to have someone there to talk with people about getting out of the industry if they don't want to be there, since if they don't really want to be there, the porn industry doesn't want them. I guess the morning before the debate, too, they were on the radio show, and the host was saying that Jesus if he was alive would be outside porn conventions protesting, but both Ron Jeremy and the pastor turned against him and were saying that no, he would be inside getting to know people unobtrusively and helping them where he could.

Also interesting was that both the pastor ("Craig") and Ron Jeremy relied a lot on the principle of disgust, which I found surprising. The pastor spoke a lot about things like analingus (=rimming) and women getting their asses stretched out from taking two cocks at once, while Ron Jeremy would talk about kink-porn as something outside of the mainstream production companies, but in the tone of his voice and the way he was saying he'd never do it he seemed to be positioning himself against the weirder side of sex. I found this interesting since I once read the back of a book by Martha Nussbaum on disgust, where she argues that disgust should not be a primary force in affecting judgments on things.

(I never read that book, though, nor the interview to which I just provided the link; I just know what the back cover said and bring it up as a point in conversation at cocktail parties.)

One time the pastor talked about ATM porn ("ass to mouth") and how he was sitting around with a friend of his who had gotten out of the industry and the guy was saying that the women used to barf after blowing the guy who'd just fucked them raw up the ass, only they'd cut that out of the shot, and a good director would know when to get the actress a bucket so she didn't throw up all over the sets.

...More tomorrow, got to get going...