Addendum addendum addendum.

My recent approach to the new trans population that I'd like to try out but have not yet is this:

Ask people if Andrew Tate-like theories of men's dominance over and superiority to women are a more or less desirable channeling of heterosexuality.

(Expected answer: less desirable, with acceptance of the premise that better and worse forms of culture can be overlaid onto something biological.)

The next question:

Could there then be better and worse forms of behavior, overlaid onto whatever the underlying thing is, with the new trans population?

(This type of thought is probably forbidden, but is necessary.)

Ideally, this would open up someone to asking, what feeds into these behaviors, and what paths can be taken with whatever this underlying thing is.

Beyond the whole thing of questioning targeted groups, though, the trouble is that people don't like to be told they're undertaking damaging behavior, and you just have to stand back and let the fallout occur, even though this fallout isn't on an individual level, but also involves advocacy groups trying to institutionalize stuff and spawn more of this whack misguided behavior all around the country and even globally, via non-profits and whatnot.

The new trans population also has so many automatic comebacks that end discussion and write you off as a bigot, like the whole thing about questioning someone's existence.

Like, what does that even mean?

I can question Andrew Tate's b*llsh*t and that only negates him, to the extent that he sees his b*llsh*t as a non-negotiable.

It really is like with the new trans population, they have these wacky fundamental premises (wrongly assigned souls resulting in hormone use), and you can't go near them with a ten-foot pole.

Somehow, too, this reminds me of some post-election interview with some late-deciding (20-something) (male) (Latino) voter who was swayed by some anti-Harris trans ad.

"I don't want them teaching that shit to kids," he was like.

Indeed.

For the majority of this population that you see -- not all, but the majority -- you just have to be around it and observe, and your gut tells you that something is seriously wrong...  Just much, much different, than older generations of trans people.